Carrie tells Ross about a presentation she attended at Contact in the Desert 2023, a Palm Springs UFO conference. Speaker Caroline Cory has, for twenty years, been bringing “as much science as possible” to the study of paranormal topics like extraterrestrial contact, telepathy, information downloads, and mental health. Ross and Carrie analyze this claim. Plus, roving reporter Drew Spears attends a UFO videography class taught by the mysterious Mr. M.