Ross shares his talk from SkeptiCamp LA, looking at how practitioners of non-science wall themselves off from criticism. See why an individual or organization might ignore its critics, attack, cut ties, or elect to positively engage.

Ross and Carrie examine the claims of Corey Goode, a Gaia TV talking head who claims to have survived the “Secret Space Program”. With Corey suing Gaia and others over his “intellectual property”, does that mean it’s not… real?

Carrie tells Ross about UFO speaker Caroline Cory, who claims to bring “as much science as possible” to the study of paranormal topics like aliens, telepathy, information downloads, and mental health. Plus, Drew takes a videography class from “Mr. M.”

As MaxFunDrive 2024 comes to a close, join Ross and Carrie as they announce a new show goal, a live show happening TONIGHT, and preview a segment from Jordan, Jessie, Go! in which Carrie and Blaire Erskine flex their skills as religious goofballs.

Ross tells Carrie about Daniel Sheehan, a DC-based attorney who specializes in Constitutional law and UFO disclosure. He reviews UFO history in America since 1945, and shares his role in bringing ET contact out of the shadows and into the light.

Ross and Carrie review Linda Moulton Howe’s “Strange Harvest”, the documentary that put the ufologist / journalist on the map. Linda investigates cattle mutilation in and around Colorado.

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Carrie attends Jimmy Church’s “Disclosure Lunch,” starring Linda Moulton Howe, Whitley Strieber, Danny Sheehan, and other UFO-whistleblower luminaries. Plus, somehow, Linda manages to bring Carrie to her knees with a single, passing question.

Ross and Carrie read the 1987 UFO memoir Communion, by alleged abductee Whitley Strieber. What was the source of a blue light that filled Whitley’s family cabin for a few seconds in October 1985? IDK, let’s talk about it for 38 years.

Ross and Carrie recall Whitley Strieber’s “deep dive into… individual communication with ‘The Visitors.’” These alien beings come to Whitley (and others) from distant stars, to harvest sperm and trade metals. And Whitley has the fan mail to prove it.