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On episode 04 of SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES, Ryan speaks with Annie Jacobsen, author of Phenomena: The Secret History of the U.S. Government’s Investigations Into Extrasensory Perception and Psychokinesis. Annie goes into great detail on how the U.S. obtained extremely bizarre nazi documents after WWII that had to do with studying psychic phenomena. These studies would then be manipulated and reformed to be researched by the U.S. Government under the direction of the C.I.A. This culminated into several decades of working with psychics and remote viewers who would spy on the Soviets during the Cold War. Annie brings us up to date on many of these covert projects and how they have evolved into a whole new cyber and mind war in today’s military industrial complex. And yes… we touch on ufology. So don’t fret!

Guest Bio: Annie Jacobsen is a journalist, bestselling author, and 2016 Pulitzer Prize finalist. Her books, Area 51, Operation Paperclip, and The Pentagon’s Brain were New York Times bestsellers and have been collectively published in many languages. OPERATION PAPERCLIP was chosen as one of the best non-fiction books of 2014 by The Boston Globe, Apple iBooks, and Publishers Weekly. THE PENTAGON’S BRAIN was a 2016 Pulitzer Prize Finalist in history and was chosen as one of the best books of the year by The Washington PostThe Boston Globe, and Amazon. Each of her books is in television development (Valhalla/AMC, Plan B/RatPac, Warner Brothers/J.J. Abrams/Bad Robot, Spielberg’s Amblin/Blumhouse). For more information, visit: www.anniejacobsen.com

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